SAM STEIN: “He said at the time, when he was saying that, obviously we now know that the whistleblower had approached his staff, but there wasn’t a 100% certainty that the whistleblower who had approached the staff was the same one who was behind the actual complaint. There was a suspicion it was, but there wasn’t 100 percent certainty.
“He also was explaining that he was trying to compel the whistleblower to come testify before the committee when he was saying that. But again he expressed regret for what he said on the initial interview with Morning Joe and said he should have been much more clear about it.
“I will say, this puts him in some trouble. He clearly wasn’t being forthright in that interview with us a couple weeks ago, and he should have been.”